Comments on: Consumer Java Is In Beta - RIA Just Got More Interesting http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2008/04/04/consumer-java-is-in-beta-ria-just-got-more-interesting/ Simon Brocklehurst's Technology Blog Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:37:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: William Eggington http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2008/04/04/consumer-java-is-in-beta-ria-just-got-more-interesting/#comment-337244 William Eggington Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:49:34 +0000 http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2008/04/04/consumer-java-is-in-beta-ria-just-got-more-interesting/#comment-337244 I really hope this is the year of the Java Applet. I'm just getting into Demicron's Wire Fusion. I have been able to offer a few clients something that distinguishes itself from the usual "Flash" site with that tool. The only bummer has been Microsoft's overzealous security and as you mentioned, Java's slow startup and chunky user experience. If they can cure that with this release then I'll be ahead of the curve. Yay! Fingers crossed eh? I really hope this is the year of the Java Applet. I’m just getting into Demicron’s Wire Fusion. I have been able to offer a few clients something that distinguishes itself from the usual “Flash” site with that tool. The only bummer has been Microsoft’s overzealous security and as you mentioned, Java’s slow startup and chunky user experience. If they can cure that with this release then I’ll be ahead of the curve. Yay! Fingers crossed eh?

]]> By: simon http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2008/04/04/consumer-java-is-in-beta-ria-just-got-more-interesting/#comment-320390 simon Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:00:07 +0000 http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2008/04/04/consumer-java-is-in-beta-ria-just-got-more-interesting/#comment-320390 Yes - Apple has been a real leader in RIA, that's for sure. I remember well the day when they launched iTunes in 2001. At that time, we had, for a few years, been pursuing a similar strategy - rich clients levaraging web protocols. I thought, "Good - at least *someone* gets this stuff!" It was a highly controversial move at the time, because there was a mantra that "everything must be in a web browser". In some ways this attitude surprised me, because I'd always thought people would be able to see that user interfaces of browser-based apps were 15 years behind good desktop GUI toolkits, and couldn't leverage other aspects of computer hardware. In other ways, it didn't surprise me, because so few people have any real understanding of user interface design. The decision paid off for Apple - iTunes might just be about the most commercially valuable RIA ever written, and it doesn't use a browser at all. What I was trying to say with Java applets running under the Consumer JRE and the new Java plug-in, is that - for the very first time in the history of the Internet, it will be possible to build truly usable, robust apps using a genuinely world-class GUI toolkit... that run <i>inside</i> a web browser. That's potentially a huge deal. It's a real pity, though, that most benefits will be seen only under Windows, at least in the short-term. Yes - Apple has been a real leader in RIA, that’s for sure. I remember well the day when they launched iTunes in 2001. At that time, we had, for a few years, been pursuing a similar strategy - rich clients levaraging web protocols. I thought, “Good - at least *someone* gets this stuff!”

It was a highly controversial move at the time, because there was a mantra that “everything must be in a web browser”. In some ways this attitude surprised me, because I’d always thought people would be able to see that user interfaces of browser-based apps were 15 years behind good desktop GUI toolkits, and couldn’t leverage other aspects of computer hardware. In other ways, it didn’t surprise me, because so few people have any real understanding of user interface design.

The decision paid off for Apple - iTunes might just be about the most commercially valuable RIA ever written, and it doesn’t use a browser at all.

What I was trying to say with Java applets running under the Consumer JRE and the new Java plug-in, is that - for the very first time in the history of the Internet, it will be possible to build truly usable, robust apps using a genuinely world-class GUI toolkit… that run inside a web browser. That’s potentially a huge deal.

It’s a real pity, though, that most benefits will be seen only under Windows, at least in the short-term.

]]> By: Asam Bashir http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2008/04/04/consumer-java-is-in-beta-ria-just-got-more-interesting/#comment-319039 Asam Bashir Sat, 05 Apr 2008 15:37:18 +0000 http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2008/04/04/consumer-java-is-in-beta-ria-just-got-more-interesting/#comment-319039 Mac OS X already has plenty of Rich Internet Applications for it's consumers, it's the rest of the industry trying to catch up remember.... Mac OS X already has plenty of Rich Internet Applications for it’s consumers, it’s the rest of the industry trying to catch up remember….

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