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	<title>Comments on: Some New Consumer Java Technologies To Watch&#8230;</title>
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	<description>Simon Brocklehurst's Technology Blog</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
		<link>http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/12/12/some-new-consumer-java-technologies-to-watch/#comment-176325</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Asam... actually, as you well know, Apple's general policy is to not share forward-looking technology roadmaps with developers, or anyone else - not even its most important customers.

To be fair, it's hard to argue that this policy is hurting Apple when you look at its market cap, its revenues and its substantial growth rate.  The company is spectacularly successful.

However, there's also no denying that Apple's developer community is small. This hasn't mattered because, on the whole, Apple's growth has not been fueled by developers.  That may not be true for the next phase of the company's growth. If Apple wants to increase the size of its developer community, which I think it does, it may have open up a little.  Time will tell...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Asam&#8230; actually, as you well know, Apple&#8217;s general policy is to not share forward-looking technology roadmaps with developers, or anyone else - not even its most important customers.</p>
<p>To be fair, it&#8217;s hard to argue that this policy is hurting Apple when you look at its market cap, its revenues and its substantial growth rate.  The company is spectacularly successful.</p>
<p>However, there&#8217;s also no denying that Apple&#8217;s developer community is small. This hasn&#8217;t mattered because, on the whole, Apple&#8217;s growth has not been fueled by developers.  That may not be true for the next phase of the company&#8217;s growth. If Apple wants to increase the size of its developer community, which I think it does, it may have open up a little.  Time will tell&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Asam Bashir</title>
		<link>http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/12/12/some-new-consumer-java-technologies-to-watch/#comment-176099</link>
		<dc:creator>Asam Bashir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dan, Apple doesn't have a public plan for anything - Java 6 progress for Mac OS X is very healthy and will be made available once it's ready - research at your favourite Swedish torrent site if you like. But that version is several months old now, and Apple doesn't sit around. Both hardware and software teams are working at full pace towards MacWorld Expo Jan 2008..

Apple does communicate with it's community of developers, Java developers don't count, they just make a lot of noise but have yet to produce any killer apps with Apple standards of  human user interface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dan, Apple doesn&#8217;t have a public plan for anything - Java 6 progress for Mac OS X is very healthy and will be made available once it&#8217;s ready - research at your favourite Swedish torrent site if you like. But that version is several months old now, and Apple doesn&#8217;t sit around. Both hardware and software teams are working at full pace towards MacWorld Expo Jan 2008..</p>
<p>Apple does communicate with it&#8217;s community of developers, Java developers don&#8217;t count, they just make a lot of noise but have yet to produce any killer apps with Apple standards of  human user interface.</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
		<link>http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/12/12/some-new-consumer-java-technologies-to-watch/#comment-175616</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

You don't have to convince me  - I agree!  It's frustrating that Apple's policy is not to communicate with developers.

I wasn't talking about about Java 5 though.  I was talking about Apple's Java 6, which is still buggy and was pulled prior to the Leopard release.  But, just because it was pulled from the developer web-site doesn't mean it hasn't already had a lot of work sunk into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to convince me  - I agree!  It&#8217;s frustrating that Apple&#8217;s policy is not to communicate with developers.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t talking about about Java 5 though.  I was talking about Apple&#8217;s Java 6, which is still buggy and was pulled prior to the Leopard release.  But, just because it was pulled from the developer web-site doesn&#8217;t mean it hasn&#8217;t already had a lot of work sunk into it.</p>
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		<title>By: deans4j</title>
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		<dc:creator>deans4j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these things you mention are all in the JavaFX Family!

Actually JavaFX is not just about new  technologies, but it's about improving the end-user experiences.

: )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these things you mention are all in the JavaFX Family!</p>
<p>Actually JavaFX is not just about new  technologies, but it&#8217;s about improving the end-user experiences.</p>
<p>: )</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/12/12/some-new-consumer-java-technologies-to-watch/#comment-175568</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"They have a long way to go before they get to where Apple is at with their Java implementation;" - you mean, going backwards to Java 5? Apple doesn't even have a Java 6 implementation, or a public plan for getting there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They have a long way to go before they get to where Apple is at with their Java implementation;&#8221; - you mean, going backwards to Java 5? Apple doesn&#8217;t even have a Java 6 implementation, or a public plan for getting there.</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
		<link>http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/12/12/some-new-consumer-java-technologies-to-watch/#comment-174673</link>
		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.  They're doing a great job; and it shows the benefits of Open Sourcing Java.  They have a long way to go before they get to where Apple is at with their Java implementation; but they've really only just started. Lot's of hard work still to do; hopefully the project will keep the momentum going.

I think it would be a smart move for Apple to Open Source their Java implementation... not sure it will happen though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  They&#8217;re doing a great job; and it shows the benefits of Open Sourcing Java.  They have a long way to go before they get to where Apple is at with their Java implementation; but they&#8217;ve really only just started. Lot&#8217;s of hard work still to do; hopefully the project will keep the momentum going.</p>
<p>I think it would be a smart move for Apple to Open Source their Java implementation&#8230; not sure it will happen though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Asam Bashir</title>
		<link>http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/12/12/some-new-consumer-java-technologies-to-watch/#comment-174580</link>
		<dc:creator>Asam Bashir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey did you see these, 

http://headius.blogspot.com/2007/11/java-6-port-for-os-x-tiger-and-leopard.html

http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/code/macosx/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey did you see these, </p>
<p><a href="http://headius.blogspot.com/2007/11/java-6-port-for-os-x-tiger-and-leopard.html" rel="nofollow">http://headius.blogspot.com/2007/11/java-6-port-for-os-x-tiger-and-leopard.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/code/macosx/" rel="nofollow">http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/code/macosx/</a></p>
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