Comments on: Android vs JavaFX Mobile - And The Winner Is… http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/11/06/android-vs-javafx-mobile-the-big-difference/ Simon Brocklehurst's Technology Blog Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:17:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Asam Bashir http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/11/06/android-vs-javafx-mobile-the-big-difference/#comment-148679 Asam Bashir Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:19:57 +0000 http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/11/06/android-vs-javafx-mobile-the-big-difference/#comment-148679 http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/11/12/google_android_dev_kit_exposes_apple_inspired_roots.html http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/11/12/google_android_dev_kit_exposes_apple_inspired_roots.html

]]> By: Troy http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/11/06/android-vs-javafx-mobile-the-big-difference/#comment-148124 Troy Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:04:58 +0000 http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/11/06/android-vs-javafx-mobile-the-big-difference/#comment-148124 I am hearing very little about which carriers will accept these open phones on their network. There may be a market for VOIP working on the mobile open source phones. Understandably however - that may only be practical for people who have dedicated wireless access. I am hearing very little about which carriers will accept these open phones on their network.

There may be a market for VOIP working on the mobile open source phones. Understandably however - that may only be practical for people who have dedicated wireless access.

]]> By: Asam Bashir http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/11/06/android-vs-javafx-mobile-the-big-difference/#comment-144272 Asam Bashir Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:11:26 +0000 http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/11/06/android-vs-javafx-mobile-the-big-difference/#comment-144272 Nice idea though, in principle, would be mutually beneficial to both Apple and Google. Apps could be developed for an Android OSX/Java version with tools provided in a Leopard Java 6 IDE. Once developed they'd be available for installation on OSX/Java, then if Apple thought any where good enough, it could authorize them for the iPhone. Could throw in Safari into the Android OSX/Java mix. Nice idea though, in principle, would be mutually beneficial to both Apple and Google. Apps could be developed for an Android OSX/Java version with tools provided in a Leopard Java 6 IDE. Once developed they’d be available for installation on OSX/Java, then if Apple thought any where good enough, it could authorize them for the iPhone. Could throw in Safari into the Android OSX/Java mix.

]]> By: simon http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/11/06/android-vs-javafx-mobile-the-big-difference/#comment-144189 simon Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:17:51 +0000 http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/11/06/android-vs-javafx-mobile-the-big-difference/#comment-144189 <p><strong>@April</strong>: How will Android's Open Source approach affect iPhone? Well, it's about developers mindshare. Apple appears to be going down the route of being a small, niche platform; there are not many Objective C developers out there. Android, on the other hand, could attract a pool of millions of developers. The Java platform alone has millions of developers, and that's before the benefits of Java going Open Source, and the new forthcoming consumers features, have really been seen.</p> <p>On the other hand, in the end, from the consumer point of view, it's all about the device. Apple as a company understands the principles behind good user interface design. That's a rare thing; most companies don't have that capability. In that regard, it's worth noting that some key people on the Android team, including the boss, are ex-Apple.</p> <p>As of today, iPhone hasn't sold much (although it's had a good start). Android hasn't sold any phones. And neither has JavaFX Mobile, but don't count that out just yet. So, it will probably be the end of 2008, and into 2009, before we start to get much of a feel for how this is playing out. In the meantime, companies like Nokia aren't standing still. </p> <p>We also need to see what Android and JavaFX Mobile devices are going to look like. I'm not yet convinced, for example, that HTC has anything like the same ability that Apple has to design a compelling handset. Every HTC phone I've looked at has felt a bit clunky and/or flimsy. Compare that to the iPhone which is a beautiful, sleek. design.</p> <p><strong>@Asam:</strong> Google isn't going to be using Mac OS X. They've chosen Linux (and maybe Java, we'll know in a week)... and the whole phone OS will be Open Source. Apple and Google are going to be competing for developer mindshare, and competing in the market for selling phones to consumers. Apple seems to have decided that developers for iPhone have to adopt their niche development tools, and accept how Apple will let apps be installed. That will be fine if iPhone sells in large numbers; but they risk creating a chicken-and-egg situation where developers won't build apps cos the platform is too small; and the platform doesn't break out to high volume, because there are not enough apps to serve a broad range of user requirements.</p> @April: How will Android’s Open Source approach affect iPhone? Well, it’s about developers mindshare. Apple appears to be going down the route of being a small, niche platform; there are not many Objective C developers out there. Android, on the other hand, could attract a pool of millions of developers. The Java platform alone has millions of developers, and that’s before the benefits of Java going Open Source, and the new forthcoming consumers features, have really been seen.

On the other hand, in the end, from the consumer point of view, it’s all about the device. Apple as a company understands the principles behind good user interface design. That’s a rare thing; most companies don’t have that capability. In that regard, it’s worth noting that some key people on the Android team, including the boss, are ex-Apple.

As of today, iPhone hasn’t sold much (although it’s had a good start). Android hasn’t sold any phones. And neither has JavaFX Mobile, but don’t count that out just yet. So, it will probably be the end of 2008, and into 2009, before we start to get much of a feel for how this is playing out. In the meantime, companies like Nokia aren’t standing still.

We also need to see what Android and JavaFX Mobile devices are going to look like. I’m not yet convinced, for example, that HTC has anything like the same ability that Apple has to design a compelling handset. Every HTC phone I’ve looked at has felt a bit clunky and/or flimsy. Compare that to the iPhone which is a beautiful, sleek. design.

@Asam: Google isn’t going to be using Mac OS X. They’ve chosen Linux (and maybe Java, we’ll know in a week)… and the whole phone OS will be Open Source. Apple and Google are going to be competing for developer mindshare, and competing in the market for selling phones to consumers. Apple seems to have decided that developers for iPhone have to adopt their niche development tools, and accept how Apple will let apps be installed. That will be fine if iPhone sells in large numbers; but they risk creating a chicken-and-egg situation where developers won’t build apps cos the platform is too small; and the platform doesn’t break out to high volume, because there are not enough apps to serve a broad range of user requirements.

]]> By: Asam Bashir http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/11/06/android-vs-javafx-mobile-the-big-difference/#comment-144183 Asam Bashir Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:50:27 +0000 http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/11/06/android-vs-javafx-mobile-the-big-difference/#comment-144183 Could get interesting if Google could licence the core of iPhone OS X from Apple and make Andorid a OSX/Java platform. That way Apple can keep tight control of the user experience for iPhone customers, but share core development stratergy with Google for a cheaper/wider deployment of Google branded phones. They should drop the name Android though, don't think it would do well with consumers... Could get interesting if Google could licence the core of iPhone OS X from Apple and make Andorid a OSX/Java platform. That way Apple can keep tight control of the user experience for iPhone customers, but share core development stratergy with Google for a cheaper/wider deployment of Google branded phones.

They should drop the name Android though, don’t think it would do well with consumers…

]]> By: April http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/11/06/android-vs-javafx-mobile-the-big-difference/#comment-144167 April Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:57:27 +0000 http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2007/11/06/android-vs-javafx-mobile-the-big-difference/#comment-144167 You were right about Android. http://www.grinn.net/blog/dev/2007/11/googles-android-vs-apples-iphone.html How is Android opens source approach going to impact the iPhone You were right about Android.

http://www.grinn.net/blog/dev/2007/11/googles-android-vs-apples-iphone.html
How is Android opens source approach going to impact the iPhone

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